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Re: You be the judge 
Posted By: Nick Johnson (67.164.60.245)
In Response To: You be the judge
Location: everywhere
Date: Monday, 14 July 2003, at 8:06 p.m.
(Michael and Barbara Jarboe)
I too am intrigued. But more so by the condescending tone taken in your responses. This has turned into a "who knows more trivia about vintage glamour photography" debate. Lets get back to the original criticism.
The lighting technique you chose showed almost a complete lack of contrast. While low ratio, high key lighting works in many situations, here it does not. Take a critical look at the Edge transfer on the shadows in the original photo by Hurrell: Shadows are crisp and defined. now look at yours: the ratio is so low and the lighting so diffused that the shadows are negligible.
Who is wrong or right? photographically speaking, who cares? The issue is, you were trying to recreate a classic photographic example. Why not suck it up and admit it fell short. In a purely artistic endeavor, do it however you like. The problem with that is, 95% of the folks on this and other forum, have some desire or intent to make money with their cameras. As a "commercial" photographer, you of all people should understand the purpose of testing, and of experimnetation. Instead of going out of the box, and expanding your own knowledge, you shot the way most net-shooters do: same image, different model.
It boils down to this...... we've all seen how well you can light a high keyimage on a white seamless. When you posted this series, I think some of us had greater expectations.
Nick
Image shown is a busines portrait shot on tri-x.... a "panchromatic" film thats been around for a LOOOOONNG time..... and has seen its fair share of use in hollywood.
: Thanks for the comments and the sharing of
: "Expertise" on the subject of
: 1940's lighting, technique, etc.
: We are intrigued by the comments and the level
: of knowledge professed regarding the images,
: styles, techniques, etc. of the era.
: Orthochromatic film was one of the major
: reasons that the images looked as they did.
: It wasn't until Panchromatic film made its
: debut that skin tone could be reproduced
: acurately.The so called
: "Hollywood" look of the images
: from that period was created as much with an
: HB pencil on the negative as it was from the
: lighting.
: Those who have a hard time with photoshop today
: should see some of the original negatives of
: the "Stars" of the era before
: Hurrell or Bull, or Walling heavily
: retouched them.
: Someone made a comment about Alberto Vargas and
: the name he used in Playboy. Actually, it is
: a historical fact that Vargas lost the legal
: right to use his real name in a lawsuit with
: Esquire Magazine.
: But, enough of history.
: The image above is one made by Hurrell of
: actress Jeanette McDonald in the 1930's. It
: is the Model Image we used as we
: conceptualized the image we wanted to create
: with Amy.
: While we understand the desire of those who
: posted comments about the image and its
: historic accuracy,or lack thereof; We
: thought it important to show where we got
: the idea.
: We have collected books and articles on Alberto
: Vargas, Hurrell and many other artists and
: photographers from that era for many years.
: If anyone would like to do their own
: research on the era, we would be pleased to
: recommend a reading list.
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