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Key: communication and planning.

Posted By: Gabe Choy (216.254.59.163)
Location: Seattle, WA
Date: Friday, 25 July 2003, at 4:07 p.m.

In Response To: Why does this happen? (David Cooke)

It all comes down to these: communication and planning.

Jim, you are correct about other kind of testing. Here are the topics should be discussed and brought up prior to the agreement from both sides:

The photographer should tell the model what does he/she has in mind for the shoot (theme, style and look) and what he/she testing for, such as testing new equipments, new lights/lighting, new look/style and roughly how long the shoot will take. From the model is the “test” is for looks, style/makeup/clothing.

If either side doesn't tell the other before both agree on the "testing" session, or throw a curve ball during the shoot (oh yeah, heard about story like that before from both sides), then I don't think it is right for either one holdup the other person and his/her time.

As for net model vs. agency model... it's like photographers, some want to shoot for big time, top models and some just enjoy the photography as a hobby and do it for fun. I think it goes the same for the model (even wannabe). Qualities are different between the two groups? Oh yeah, of course, after all, models with agency are for commercial purproses, they NEED to meet all the "industry standards". Having an agent/director on their butts, it means the model can't screw anything up (agent/director does it to protect their modeling agency's image too) Does it mean that net or freelance models are less in quality? Not at all, maybe they are not the typical, meet the industry standard type of models.

Messages In This Thread

• Why does this happen?
  David Cooke (66.52.248.232) -- Thursday, 24 July 2003, at 1:25 a.m.
  • Re: Why does this happen?
    Michael and Barbara Jarboe (4.41.209.191) -- Thursday, 24 July 2003, at 2:39 a.m.
  • Re: Same problem here
    Elizabeth Watson (67.75.238.153) -- Thursday, 24 July 2003, at 3:42 a.m.
    • Ditto
      Dania (67.160.32.100) -- Thursday, 24 July 2003, at 2:39 p.m.
  • Re: Why does this happen?
    Chad Boutin (66.178.147.171) -- Thursday, 24 July 2003, at 5:40 p.m.
    • Re: Why does this happen?
      David Cooke (207.220.163.158) -- Thursday, 24 July 2003, at 5:55 p.m.
      • Re: Why does this happen?
        Chad Boutin (66.178.147.171) -- Thursday, 24 July 2003, at 6:06 p.m.
    • Re: Why does this happen?
      Michael and Barbara Jarboe (4.41.209.191) -- Thursday, 24 July 2003, at 6:18 p.m.
    • Re: Why does this happen?
      Daniel Williams (65.176.97.85) -- Thursday, 24 July 2003, at 6:25 p.m.
    • Re: Why does this happen?
      Larry Clark (65.219.138.153) -- Thursday, 24 July 2003, at 8:46 p.m.
      • Re: Why does this happen?
        Jim Wimmer (12.230.78.211) -- Friday, 25 July 2003, at 12:26 a.m.
    • Re: Why does this happen?
      Elizabeth Watson (67.75.208.2) -- Thursday, 24 July 2003, at 8:47 p.m.
      • Re: Why does this happen?
        Michael and Barbara Jarboe (4.41.209.191) -- Thursday, 24 July 2003, at 9:30 p.m.
        • Re: A lot of valid points
          Elizabeth Watson (67.75.206.149) -- Friday, 25 July 2003, at 2:26 a.m.
          • Re: A lot of valid points
            Jim Wimmer (12.230.78.211) -- Friday, 25 July 2003, at 3:58 a.m.
            • Re: A lot of valid points
              Greg McGonagill (12.229.196.189) -- Saturday, 26 July 2003, at 3:14 p.m.
      • Re: Why does this happen?
        Steve Mills (67.75.216.16) -- Thursday, 24 July 2003, at 11:46 p.m.
      • Elizabeth ...
        dana lloyd kehr (66.52.250.39) -- Friday, 25 July 2003, at 2:30 a.m.
        • Re: Elizabeth ...
          David Cooke (66.52.253.165) -- Friday, 25 July 2003, at 7:55 a.m.
  • This question has been around for a while
    vince (209.206.248.206) -- Friday, 25 July 2003, at 12:31 p.m.
  • Key: communication and planning.
    Gabe Choy (216.254.59.163) -- Friday, 25 July 2003, at 4:07 p.m.
    • That's not the point
      David Cooke (66.52.240.245) -- Friday, 25 July 2003, at 4:24 p.m.
      • this respond is supposed to be under Chad's post..
        Gabe Choy (216.254.59.163) -- Friday, 25 July 2003, at 4:37 p.m.
      • But...
        David W. Stratton (63.228.96.67) -- Friday, 25 July 2003, at 6:20 p.m.
        • Models are people too (rant).
          Greg McGonagill (12.229.196.189) -- Friday, 25 July 2003, at 7:10 p.m.
  • bad apples, got to have one or few.
    Gabe Choy (216.254.59.163) -- Friday, 25 July 2003, at 4:20 p.m.

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