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That's not the point (PIC)

Posted By: David Cooke (66.52.240.245)
Location: Tacoma, WA
Date: Friday, 25 July 2003, at 4:24 p.m.

In Response To: Key: communication and planning. (Gabe Choy)

Somehow, this turned into a thread about paid vs. unpaid testing, etc., etc. (funny how these forum threads threads tend to morph like that, isn't it?)... but I didn't start this discussion to talk about the merits and standards of TFP, modeling fees or gas money. I started it to talk about being left in the lurch after expending time, effort and sometimes money in preparation for a photoshoot, and also about being ignored by someone who had already commited themselves to a joint project.

It really doesn't matter if a model or photographer is professional or amateur, grizzled veteran or raw newbie... we all ought to treat one another the same way that we would like others to treat us. As the conversation turned this way and that over the past couple of days, a couple people managed to hit the nail right on the head when they mentioned "common courtesy", that really is what it's all about.

: It all comes down to these: communication and
: planning.

: Jim, you are correct about other kind of
: testing. Here are the topics should be
: discussed and brought up prior to the
: agreement from both sides: The photographer
: should tell the model what does he/she has
: in mind for the shoot (theme, style and
: look) and what he/she testing for, such as
: testing new equipments, new lights/lighting,
: new look/style and roughly how long the
: shoot will take. From the model is the
: “test” is for looks, style/makeup/clothing.

: If either side doesn't tell the other before
: both agree on the "testing"
: session, or throw a curve ball during the
: shoot (oh yeah, heard about story like that
: before from both sides), then I don't think
: it is right for either one holdup the other
: person and his/her time.

: As for net model vs. agency model... it's like
: photographers, some want to shoot for big
: time, top models and some just enjoy the
: photography as a hobby and do it for fun. I
: think it goes the same for the model (even
: wannabe). Qualities are different between
: the two groups? Oh yeah, of course, after
: all, models with agency are for commercial
: purproses, they NEED to meet all the
: "industry standards". Having an
: agent/director on their butts, it means the
: model can't screw anything up
: (agent/director does it to protect their
: modeling agency's image too) Does it mean
: that net or freelance models are less in
: quality? Not at all, maybe they are not the
: typical, meet the industry standard type of
: models.

David Cooke / fine photography

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